Thursday, September 11, 2014

ATS Is Government-Sponsored


“Above Top Secret” (ATS) is the largest conspiracy-related forum on the Internet by number of members and traffic. People associated with the website also do the Internet/radio program “ATS Live” which appears on online streams.

Given the US government's fascination with illegally spying on millions of its own citizens using the NSA and other agencies, their fear of whistle-blowers, and the FBI's considering of Americans who invoke the Constitution or call themselves “constitutionalists” as potential terrorists,1 it would not take a large leap of faith to assume that these same US agencies would at least occasionally (and more likely automatically, using software) monitor posts made on such conspiracy forums, depending on their content. It has already been publicly reported, for example, that government agencies, even local police agencies, collect information from websites such as Facebook on individuals they are interested in. Above Top Secret being the largest conspiracy theory forum on the Internet, featuring posts government conspiracies and many anti-government sentiments, it would be reasonable to assume that, if any such monitoring was going on at any forum, it would be at least as likely to occur on this particular web forum as anywhere else.

 
Obvious Government Interest in Online Discussions

A wired.com article from 2008 entitled Military Report: Secretly ‘Recruit or Hire Bloggers’ describes a 2006 Joint Special Operations University report titled “Blogs and Military Information Strategy” which states that “Hiring a block of bloggers to verbally attack a specific person or promote a specific message may be worth considering.”2 The report authors stated that they received positive feedback for their work, but the Special Operations Command spokesman responded to inquiries that “The views expressed in the article publication are entirely those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the views, policy or position of the U.S. Government, Department of Defense, USSOCOM [Special Operations Command], or the Joint Special Operations University,” and added that the recommendations of the reports' authors were not “actionable.” 
 
Similar articles along this theme of military interest in Internet discussion communities include a 2007 Tampa Bay Times article entitled Blogs are CentCom's new target,3 and CENTCOM Team Engages 'Bloggers' from the DoD's own website.4

A muzzlewatch.com article regarding Israeli's handling of Internet discussion is entitled That commenter on your blog may actually be working for the Israeli government, where it is detailed that the Israeli Foreign Ministry had created an “Internet Fighting Team” to pay students and demobilized soldiers to post messages on behalf of Israel's foreign policies on websites such as Facebook and YouTube.


ATS:  More Than Just Monitored

However, many people who have been familiar with this forum for a number of years (myself included, observing and participating for over ten years) are not only of the opinion that it would be a prime target for NSA monitoring, paid bloggers, etc., but that it was even created and is actively run by some group of individuals involved with US and/or British military intelligence agencies, such as a private contractor for such a government entity (CIA, etc.), so that this a forum (again, the largest of its kind on the Internet) could not only be easily monitored but could also be easily censored if need be, while providing a protected and very visible forum5 for paid disinformationists to antagonize anyone posting credible or thought-provoking information on any of a range of topics. Not only would this be a good idea for those interested in spreading disinformation and controlling conspiracy-related discussions of the Internet community, but it becomes evident after long observation of staff and member activities and policies that this idea fits exactly how the website already operates (more on this a little further on). Along these lines, Kerry Cassidy of Project Camelot, John Lear6 and Jim Stone, among many lesser-known figures in conspiracy circles, also believe that ATS is a government-sponsored front. Jim Stone7 apparently believes that both Above Top Secret and Godlike Productions8 censor certain information posted on them, as he stated on his Fukushima disaster page that the information he posted on these websites would be deleted.

Links posted on the ATS forum to certain conspiracy websites (such as beforeitsnews.com) are automatically edited by the forum to prevent the link from functioning either by removing the “www” from the beginning of the URL or by censoring the entire URL. This is done because the ATS staff has stated that they have determined that such websites are not credible or that they perpetuate “hoaxes.” Also for a short period of time in August 2014, any links to Russia Today without hyperlink text provided by the poster were automatically labeled as “propaganda” in the link text as it appeared on the forum. Staff stated that this was being done because while US media may be only “biased,” Russia Today is a state-owned company and so it is “propaganda” and must be labeled as such. However, other state-run news sources such as the BBC or CBC were exempt from this new rule. After a long thread of member complaints, one of the moderators, “Skeptic Overlord” finally removed this new feature.

A forum specifically for “hoaxes” is also maintained, into which moderators will move threads from sources or on certain subjects which the staff has likewise considered to be hoaxes, such as articles posted on ATS from any website that the staff has already deemed to not be credible. Especially for a conspiracy theory forum, this kind of heavy-handedness from staff in determining which sources and subjects are credible enough to discuss and which are not is at the very least an impingement upon the freedom of expression which the staff itself claims that it honors from its members. Rather, the staff asserts itself as more than an arbiter of fair and open discussions, but also an authority bent on “saving the Internet by exposing bullshit.”9


Suppressing Insider Knowledge

One of the most interesting and well-known instances of ATS indicting itself as a front for government agencies occurred in August of 2003 when a member seemed to have predicted a major political event in Jakarta, the capital of Indonesia. This event was the bombing of Jakarta on August 5, 2003 by alleged al-Qaeda terrorists, which occurred only 16 hours after the warning post was made on ATS. This predictably caused a flurry of activity on the ATS forums, and one member alerted the FBI of the post. In response, staff member “SkepticOverlord” stated that the member who posted this prophetic warning had actually posted it after the bombing had taken place, and then hacked the forums to edit the time of his post to make it look like he had posted it before the bombing.

However, at least three members continued to assert that they specifically remembered seeing the thread before the bombing had taken place, the member who originally posted the prophetic warning himself had his IP traced back to a DoD network and he was apparently also aware that the FBI had been contacted about his post before the ATS staff even became aware of it.  It was later revealed on DEBKAfile.com that the CIA also knew of the Jakarta bomb plot 72 hours before it was carried out. This event on the ATS forums is described in more detail in the form of a satirical comic (complete with legitimate references) at the Illuminati Rex website.10

From long personal experience on the forum, I can also relate the following observations.

There are certain posters who focus primarily on particular areas of conversation, such as ancient archaeological controversies, geo-engineering or 9/11. These members, which I will refer to as suspected disinformants, invariably defend the conventional or “official” positions on the various issues they focus on. This in itself is not unusual since everyone can be expected to have different interests in different subjects, and to have different views on these subjects. Of course many people genuinely believe the official positions on various issues, and even come to defend them (for whatever reason) on conspiracy forums. However, other aspects of the posting of these individuals make them stand out from other members. These suspected disinformants, as far as I have been able to estimate by myself, seem to be relatively few in number, but with very prolific and prominent posting habits that make them almost unavoidable to encounter in their “assigned” forums. On forums where there is a substantial amount of high quality research being gathered by members, there appear to be a greater number of these types of posters, often with maybe two or three actively participating on a given thread at once. These particular posters are active very nearly every day, so it is easy to become familiar with the nature of their posts and then attentively study them and their behaviors for the things I am about to describe.


Manipulation of ATS's Star and Flag System

First of all, there is an apparent manipulation of the systems of starring and flagging posts. A member can give a star to any ATS post for which he or she wants to show approval, while flagging is reserved for the topic/thread as a whole to give it a relative level of importance compared with other threads. I personally noticed when talking to one of these people who constantly defends a particular forum, that though we might post in succession fairly quickly until we had often filled almost two whole pages of 20 posts each with debate, the poster would typically have either one or zero stars on each of their posts. After an elapsed period of time, maybe of two hours or more, within a very small time frame of about 10 minutes, all of that poster's posts would suddenly have 4 or 5 stars. This is a generalized example of what I have witnessed, but it became so apparent to me that I would actually monitor the posts in regular intervals of about ten minutes to see how quickly the stars appeared, and they would all suddenly appear together as if simultaneously, and consistently in this way, regardless of the time of day or night. After they all appeared together in this way, the number of stars would usually remain the same. This led me to believe that either multiple “dummy” accounts were being used to star the members' posts to give them a greater appearance of popular support (and thus an increased propaganda value) or else some automated feature or software was doing it all at once after a certain amount of time had passed. The chances of four or five independent posters coming along consistently at the same time to star the same posts, within about a ten-minute interval, hours after the original posts were made, time after time, is considerably improbable. This would seem to indicate that not only do certain posters augment the amount of popular support they appear to be receiving for their posts, but it would also indicate that the ATS staff is either too inept to notice the behavior, does not care that it appears to be happening (as some past posts by moderators and administrators have seemed to have indicated, for example suggesting that they often turn a blind eye to multiple accounts posting from the same IP address), or else is actively supporting or is involved with it on some level.


Banning or Quietly Changing the Passwords of Members Who Are Too Troubling for Them

Secondly, I have noticed many accounts of very reasonable and prolific posters either banned or otherwise prevented from continuing to post on the forum. One well-known example was the banning of the famous government pilot and conspiracy theorist John Lear, one of the most famous pilots in the world with many world records to his name, who was at one time given the title of “Conspiracy Master” on ATS. Lear's banning from ATS was never explained by site administrators, but Lear stated in a video interview with Kerry Cassidy that he was banned after refusing not to talk about being post banned11 on false pretenses.12

My own ATS account was also effectively banned without appearing to be, when another person logged into my account and simply changed the password and email address so that I was not able to log into it and was also not able to request my “forgotten” password to be sent to my email account. My account was one of the most active accounts on the forum and remains listed as one of the top posters by various criteria on the website, although I have been unable to log into it for a fairly long time.  Another account I made subsequent to this also had its password changed after I began linking to this page in U2Us to various members, though neither of these accounts were actually banned.

ATS Is Primarily a Forum of "Skeptic Debunkers," Not Conspiracy Theorists

Lastly, the content of the ATS forums in general does not primarily seem to be pro-conspiracy or even conspiracy-friendly. The attitude and content of the website overall is anti-conspiratorial and oppressive to serious discussion of any conspiracy-related topics, or much of any intelligent discussion at all. This is easy enough for anyone to test for themselves by simply posting conspiracy-related information on the forum and observing the general response.

When the general consensus of posters seems to narrow in on a government cover-up or false flag event and begins to dig up more valuable information as to who, how, why, etc. (as any valuable discussion forum on these subjects would), this is exactly when people appear who start petty arguments, make insults and distract from valuable discussion.  This kind of "divide and conquer," or more like "divide and suppress discussion" tactic seems to be what ATS is all about.


5 ATS posts are often the first Google returns on certain conspiracy-specific search terms.
6 Cassidy interviews John Lear about this in an interview here: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mp9F-gijCM>.
7 “Jim Stone” is an anonymous blogger who claims to have worked for US intelligence agencies in the past and posts his views as an insider on contemporary events on his website, <http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/>.
8 Another popular conspiracy theory forum.
9 This is part of a message presented in an ad on the sides of the website in August 2014, with the letters “sh” slightly blurred in the word “bullshit.” This ad also features a snarling personification of a bull, with prominent horns.
11 Post banning is when a member is banned from posting but their account still appears to be active.
12 This interview (the same mentioned earlier) can be found here: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mp9F-gijCM>.

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